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SMALL ARMS REVIEW MAGAZINES REPORT ON STONYCREEK ARMORY'S SUOMI KITS

 

 



 

 

 

 


 


 


 


 
 
 

 

Here is your response and reaction to Stonycreek products from emails and from message boards. Keep 'em coming.

 


So I just got my M11 side-cocking upper with tactical rails and MP5 sights. . took longer to wash my hands than it did to install it. I couldn't be happier - easily turned my old mac into a new custom. I'll be a repeat customer!

- Todd S.
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The drum came the other day. I tried it out and it worked real good.
I found that loading it will take a little practice to get proficient.
Following the directions you sent with it helped alot, Thanks Jeff

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Hey Jeff, how’s it going?

I just wanted to let you know that I got my stock today and it is perfect in every way. It locks in tight and stays tight, great work and great product, you guys really now what quality is all about. I think my next purchase is going to be a suppressor for my Cobray M11/9 SMG, do you have any advice for me on purchasing one. I’m sure you guys have used many different kinds and might have some hands on advice for me as to which company to go with, what rounds to use, and maybe where to buy one. Thanks for any info you can provide I really would appreciate the help. And again great workmanship on the stock, its top notch!

Jay

 

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Thanks for the quick turnaround on that last order. The Suomi upper works
great with the new sear. Nice work.

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You guys are great! I sure hope all the projects are working out for you.
I'm sure your family life and personal lives have suffered and maybe it will
pay off monetarily enough for you to enjoy it soon. Best of luck!

Alan

 

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On Sunday at the shoot I used your rate accelerator in my M11 it has a sten magwell conversion. When we checked the rate of fire it was almost 1900 R.P.M. we shot 400 rd with out any jams even with two mags welded together it holds 48. does it normally bring the rpm up this high. Thanks

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by adam salem Date Added: Thursday 01 November, 2007
WOW !!! with my M11 suomi upper,72 rnd drum,tactical grip ,AR-15 stock I am the envy of the club !! When I start shooting everybody stops and watches in AWE !! Can you believe what a perfectly balanced and oiled SMG , 1500$ of add ons from stoney creek produces ? Everything fits perfectly together . You'd think it came that way from the factory !! Thanks Jeff !!

Rating: 5 of 5 Stars! [5 of 5 Stars!]

 

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Jeff,
I used the (M11A1 380 Suomi) upper today. 300-400 rounds ZERO I repeat ZERO problems!!!!! No FTF, No FTE No anything except Bang, bang, bang.
Real nice and smooth!!! Great job!!!! I did not put the sear in but I think I will before it rounds the bolt like you told me at the show. (edit)

Bottom line I have no complaints!!! My friend was impressed....and he has almost one of every machine gun, and sub machine gun...and this is not and exageration....it must be nice to be loaded!!!! I hope this venture will have its rewards for you!!!
I'm working on pictures for you also!!! (edit)

Thanks to you and your whole crew!!!!! PLEASE Tell them they made another gunner happy!!!
Thanks
Mike

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This was seen on www.uzitalk.com MAC10 board Feb 27th 2007:

greetings all! i've skimmed through here on occasion, but never registered. i just received my Suomi kit from Stonycreek on saturday so i thought i'd post a quick initial review.

my first impression, this kit KICKS ASS!!!!

i had a chance to fire 50 rounds through the kit saturday. ZERO problems, and very controllable. i fired it with and without my AWC can. the AWC really makes for a long configuration, so i need to find something shorter. for now it works fine. i went with both white buffers and it definitely ran slower than a stock M11. i don't have a timer, but i'll try to get a speed measurement during the week. hopefully the weather will clear up a bit in the next few days as i want to get some accuracy testing performed and of course i have to try a few 70-round drum dumps.

other than the conversion kit and monster sear, my M11 is stock and i didn't have any problems. i saw a few posts where folks mentioned being able to flex the kit enough to cause it to fire but i didn't find that to be the case. i DID follow the instructions Jeff provided and tightened the two set screws that take the slop out where the mag well is pinned to the original M11 receiver. i also didn't notice any ejection or feeding problems. it's possible Jeff made a few design changes to correct this. i did only fire 50 rounds, so when i run some more rounds through it this week i should get a better feel for any problems. i was using some 158gr. IMI Samson subsonic ammo i have, but i will probably run some tests with my warranty-voiding reloads. they are subsonic 147 grain rounds that i have used for years in the stock M11. in fact, that's all i've fired in it since i bought it except for a few hundred rounds when i first brought it home.

as others mentioned, the fit and finish on the kit is perfect. i have to give high marks to Jeff and his employees for taking a lot of pride in their work. i ordered my kit back in June and it was worth the wait!

here's a few photos from when it showed up to 30 minutes later after i test-fired it.

http://home.ptd.net/~hamrdog/images/boxes.jpg
http://home.ptd.net/~hamrdog/images/unboxed.jpg
http://home.ptd.net/~hamrdog/images/unwrapped.jpg
http://home.ptd.net/~hamrdog/images/assembled.jpg

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Man, I thought Richard Lage's upper was cool... your Suomi upper is truly innovative!

When you're upper hits the streets and starts showing up at subgun matches, it will be your FAULT when the prices of M11's start hitting that $4000-5000 price range :)

Mark

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Hello,

Would you know if your barrels will fit on the V-10 ( their M-11 /
MPA clone)Vulcan Arms?
Is your 16" barrel in 9mm one piece, or is it threaded together like
the 10"?

Honestly, I have emailed questions to them in the past and received
very little useful information in return.
Your business and Springfield Armory have given me the best,
consistently prompt, customer service, and useful information relating
to your products. Good job!

Thanks for the help,
David

 

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Just shot my m11 with my SCA side cocking upper w/scope mount, I don't know why I waited so long for this. Its great !!! You build an exceptional product.

Thanks
Chad

Looking forward to seeing a Suomi upper.

 

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Sir-

I received the upper & test fired it today. The quality of the work is
excellent and the unit worked flawlessly with both stock & aftermarket metal
mags. Do you have any of the replacement open bolts (with the fixed firing
pin vice the OEM sheet metal one) and sears in stock? I'd like to replace
these as well.

Robert G.


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Hey Jeff- I recieved the upper , it works great and looks great- excellent workmanship- Thanks, WEP

 

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(This was seen posted on the UZITALK.com's MAC10 message board)

SCA Suomi upper
I chronographed it:
Single plastic buffer-
a) Winchester white box. 10 x 627 rpm.
b) Wolf= 10x 625 rpm.

Both plastic buffers-
a) Winchester white box. 10 x 835 rpm.
b) Wolf = 826 rpm.

Both plastic buffers with high speed buffer-
a) Winchester white box. 10 x 1086 rpm.
b) Wolf= 1077 rpm.

It shoots great. Very accurate. Have put over 500+ rds through it without a single malfunction. Workmanship is quality. Competed with it at the monthly match yesterday. Very pleased with the performance and handling. Makes the M11 more practical and definitely I will be using my M11 alot more than I have in the past.

 

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HI Jeff,
I am exited!!! I just picked up the upper today and can't wait to install it. The only 2 items I am missing are the monster sear, (which I know ships on Nov 13th) and the winding tool for the drums.
Just wanted to confirm that is what you have as well. Thanks again. Dan
P.S. I can't wait until the thompson kit is ready.

 

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Sir-

I received the upper & test fired it today. The quality of the work is
excellent and the unit worked flawlessly with both stock & aftermarket metal
mags. Do you have any of the replacement open bolts (with the fixed firing
pin vice the OEM sheet metal one) and sears in stock? I'd like to replace
these as well.

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Jeff,
Many thanks. I got the parts. Flash hider is one nice piece of machine
work. I now have your 10'' upper with side cock and flash hider on my
M10A1.

You guys do nice work. I am looking forward to my next range date to see
how it all works.
Troy

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0-29-2006, 09:47 PM #1
craig verrilli
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stonycreek soumi upper
recieved my soumi upper last week, just be patient guys its worth the wait. needs taller sear, but after that it rocks . i've got about 13 drums throu it ,even hollow points feed, single feed loading off the bench @ 25 yds with hollographic sight all bullets touch. i've got 10" bbl its a really heavy bbl gun dosn't climb much.i've even ran bullets as light as 88gr ,gun just runs a little slower.saw jeff @ gun show in ct today ,he is just really busy tryin to fill orders.waiting sucks but hang in there, this thing is what really makes a m-11 worth owning.

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Subguns.com NFA Firearms Discussion Board

SCA Suomi Picked Up! Bloom Ball Launcher!

Posted By: Tim @ ES Tactical <tim@estacarms.com>
Date: 11/1/06 22:08

Picked up my Suomi upper Sat. Kudos to the Hartford, CT TSA guys and gals! A few issues that I must say Jeff got handled Sun morn. Looks damn good. Just started running it in but she's running good. The slow speed is kinda grease gun speed. It's neat. Had to raise the sear a bit for a good catch, but other than that, it's a drop on. I'm giggling like a school girl! Also just got my Bloom Golf Ball launcher! And yea, got the thread adapter. Now that's a nut! Not good for anything but man, what a grin it put's on your face. Happy Marine Corps Birthday to me! Gemtech Viper due tomorrow! Thanks to Joe at Acme for the excellent service and turn around on that. And one last. Good job by the people at the NFA for good, realistic actions. Range report to follow!

Tim Small
USMC
ES Tactical
Happy Birthday to all you Jarheads!!! Semper Fi!!!!

 

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Jeff,
Just got all my goodies (Suomi M11/9 kit) yesterday and it is a work of art! One question on the suomi rate of fire. What can I expect RPM out of the box and do I use a MAC Jack or your rate excellerator that I have or are there other means to adjust the RPM ?

Thanks!
Rick

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Stony Creek - Jeff,

Just received the "Mini 9". I want to thank you all for the prompt and courteous service. You folks are great and I wouldn't hesitate to do business with you again.
By chance, do you have any more of those shiny new looking STen mags like came with the "Mini 9" I can order? Let me know.

Sincerely,

Brian M.

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WOW!!!!!!!! I have been smiling all day. I put the new bolt in with your
upper and it is incredible!!!!! It is better than I expected. Thanks for your help and the T-shirt.
Do you have drums for the MAC-11?


Thank you again.


Tim


Stonycreek note: Tim did have a small problem with a 4-positon stock made by another company that we sent him. We repaired the problem.

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my order came today great quality IM very happy with it thank you russ

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Thank you very much for such a quick and accurate response, I am already becoming a very satisfied customer.

Warren

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You guys are among the very best in the industry, keep up the good work!

Christopher

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Thanks Jeff received stock Saturday it fits and looks great thanks Jmaes S.

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Thanks man!!!

It appears that all the rave reviews about your customer (and potential customer) service are true. I appreciate your time and attitude in a world where most folks just don't give a sh@t. Have a great day!

Best regards,

Thomas

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I just got my 10 inch M-11 upper in the mail. The quality is
outstanding. I did notice a crack in the AR-15 type handguard though.
You may be able to see it in the attached photos. I can't tell if it is
more cosmetic or if it may be a problem after some use.
--(James)

Stonycreek's reply to James:

Hello James, Thank you for the very kind words! im happy you like the
products we build.
im very sorry for the problem with the hand guard and will fix it at once.
The photo shows what looks like a crack or chip. if you feel this going to
be any type of a problem please send back just the broken piece and we will
send you a new one right away. No need to send the entire upper. The hand
guard is easily removed by un-screwing the bushing nut. i would use a pair
of channel lock type plyers with a piece of leather over the bushing to
protect its finish.
I want you to be 100% satisfied with all you Stonycreek Armory purchases. in
a growing business there will from time to time be problems but its how
Stonycreek handles them that sets us apart. Best regards, Jeff

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fantastic looking cant wait to giver it whirl man accessory mount should be bitchin// upper looks very clean.

GOT SOMEBODY TO FIX MY 100 RND BETA SHOULD RUN GREAT, WILL TALKJ LATER.

Thanks Rich Man

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Hi Jeff,

I received the M11 CAR stock adaptor...I'm happy.

Kim

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Message board chat about Stonycreek Armory:

http://www.subguns.com/boards/inquiryarchive.cgi?noframes;read=30855

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Hi Jeff,

Received the side cocker for my Mac 10/9 yesterday afternoon, and thanks for the cool shirt too. I have to make a trip up towards Denver today so I didn't have time to swap out the upper and test fire it, but that gives me something to look forward to when I return to the ranch tomorrow afternoon.

I appreciate you lightning fast service, we will be doing biz again here soon.

Best mountain wishes,
Jim

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I have only ordered a few items from you but wanted to tell you GREAT JOB!

I got a 10/9 upper from you that is just great!!

I was very impressed with the workmanship and quality.keep up the good work
and hope all your staff has a great holiday!!!!

thank you,

Abe W.

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just to let you know I got the mac-11 upper today and it is awesome. I'm going out to the desert Sunday to give it it's first trial run and I hope to much success it operates flawless. I put a laser site and a light on it and it looks great. Good work and thanks for the cool product.


Brian A.

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Jeff, I know you are a busy guy, but I had to drop you a note and tell you
that the M10/45 side-cocking upper w/M4 handguards and MP5 sights that you
sent me is absolutely OUTSTANDING!!!
I don't think that I've ever been more pleased with a gun product. I
appreciate your (or whoever did the work) attention to detail on that unit.
And believe me, I went over it with a fine tooth comb checking it out.
Outstanding work, Jeff!
I'll be in touch with another order soon.
Thank you very much
Clay

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Dear sirs, what will the price be and when will your drum mags be available for the M/11 9MM? I have purchased your side-cocking upper, rate accelerator and CAR stock with adapter. These new parts have made my gun perform beyond all expectations. You guys make some really great products. Thanks, Jim B.

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jeff, received tri-rail setup. real nice..... i ordered a crimson trace laser forend grip for m11. ill send pic when it arrives. thanks, louis

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Jeff

Thanks for the great work on refinishing my PS upper. The new SCA SC upper fits perfect and looks awesome. Once again thanks for all your help. By the way, when do you anticipate the sales of the Uzi folding stock for the M10?

Ryan W.

I used my 10" M10 upper yesterday at NERO. It is great!! It really tames the recoil/rise. It also has a great "feel" in my hands. I joined your Yahoo group so I can keep up to date with SCA.
Thanks, another great product from SCA.
Mike


Jeff,
I finally had time to fire my new Stoney Creek upper and am very pleased with the performance and accuracy. It converted my (fun to shoot but not accurate) sub-gun into an accurate dependable entry weapon that I would trust my life with. Great investment on my part, Great product on your part. Better than I expected.

Thanx
Rob

 

 


Hi Jeff, got the upper. It's gorgeous of course; hope to shoot it this weekend. Thanx a bunch- Bob

 

Jeff,
I cannot find a long muzzle break for my short upper. On your wesite you were selling some slightly used barrels. How much would it take to thread one of those barrels 1/2 x 28tpi. Then I can just move the muzzle break from my 10 inch upper to the short one. I already have the thread adapter installed om my suppressor if I need to use it. I got a lot of compliments about your uppers at the range today. I gave out all your calling cards.
Regards
Vince

 

My order arrived today. I’m very pleased with the parts and especially your prompt service. Thank you very much.

Regards, Eric

 

Wonderful !

I didn't even think about the side rail. That's why you guys are the experts. Thanks a million.
I can't say enough good things about your customer service.

I will definately buy Stonycreek products in the future and reccommend them to others.

Thanks again,

Jim K

 



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